Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby blagerst » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:21 pm

Thank you Francisco,
I have now tested programming Survey including trigger command and channel 6 seems to work fine.
However, I will need to rearrange the waypoints to cover my target map.
Looks promising.
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby Tom » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:06 pm

In the Gluonpilot datalog you can already see the camera trigger. This will be what you need to geotag photos. I am planning to also include it in the telemetry towards the groundstation.

I don't think serial communication with the camera will be possible, unless we use the SPI link, which is also serial. However I do not know of a camera supporting a serial link? For now I just use custom CHDK scripts.
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby blagerst » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:40 am

FLIR-cameras have serial interface and some models with GPS also add location into the images.
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby kempo » Tue May 07, 2013 9:43 am

Hello,

any new updates regarding photogrammetry with gluonpilot ?

Thanks,

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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby Tom » Thu May 09, 2013 7:38 pm

I don' t know about Bo's attempts but photomapping is no problem!
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby kempo » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:21 pm

Hi Tom,

It would be possible to add in the Ground Station an option to have the area of the place on which it will be done the survey / photomapping ( to have the value after the polygon fot the survey is build) ?

Image

I have made several trials without any autopilot in very calm weather with a Canon A490 - CHDK , and it seems that 80% of the pictures are blurry.

What camera is used for photomapping by the Gluonpilot Users ?

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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby Tom » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:44 pm

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the idea, I'll keep it in mind!

It is important to use a camera that can do shutter priority mode. I put the camera in 1/800th of a second (or whatever gives you good values). The camera itself will adjust the ISO value. This should give you sharper images.

I use a canon ixus 120 with CHDK. The CHDK allows you to use a cheap camera and turn into a more advanced one that can do remote triggering & shutter priority :-)
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby fba » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:12 pm

About shutter speed
The basis is that the aircraft movement when the shutter is open must be minus than the pixel size at the scale image sensor.

Example

ground velocity= 20m/s, height =200m, shutter speed = 1/200s, focal length =28mm.

s=vt=20x1/200=0.1m, on the ground

at image scale.

photo escale=focal length/height=0.028/200=1/7142
so movement at camera sensor scale is
s-camera=0.1*(1/7142)=0.000014m=14 microns, so if your camera pixel size is bigger than 14 microns the photos aren´t blurring

Check your: sensor & pixel size, height and average cruised speed to compute the best shutter speed (fixed). Take this suitable configuration: the major time shutter possible, bigger sensor size, the minor ISO speed and high f-number to get the best results.


The extended paper

https://www.asprs.org/wp-content/uploads/pers/2005journal/november/highlight1.pdf
http://www.asprs.org/a/publications/per ... light1.pdf
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby Tom » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:49 pm

Thanks for the info. This seems to make sense. But most people have no clue about the image sensor size. Maybe we should include some info for standard cameras such as a canon powershot.
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Re: Photogrammetry with gluonpilot

Postby small_rc » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:42 am

Maybe there could be a new thread or Forum Subject where people could post their CHDK scripts and details of their cameras.
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